Hello!

I hope writing in English isn't forbidden, if is please delete and excuse me.

I have problem with Xciting 250 2007..

After my position light bulb went out i changed my self but i disconnect all wires to remove whole front cover.
I change bulb without problem, checked water in radiator(was full) and everything was fine..scooter worked nice, as before.

Next morning outside temperature went down to -2 Celsius and i wanted to move scooter inside.
Scooter worked normally(started normally like in summer time) but check engine light went on..i turn off immediately and tried to figure whats happened...CELP flashed 5 slow times and 8 faster times...
I check antifreeze(was changed 2 weeks ago)water in radiator was also normal...oil changed 300 km ago, new battery two month ago when i also changed drive belt and put new Dr Pulley sliders.
Bike is now almost  21.000 km and works fine.
Since was Sunday i was unable to call official dealer(btw they are 30 km away) and i was curious whats happened..i found repair manual and there says that  8 CELP  flashes mean Idle Air Bypass Valve error..

Tried to reset TPS/ISC according to manual(turn key off, open throttle, turn key on and wait 8 sec than turn off) but nothing changed..

Next Monday i call official Kymco dealer and service and presented them my problem..i was amazed when person on phone said i have no idea what is IDLE AIR BYPAS VALVE..even i gave them part number from catalogue he didnt have clue..he said come with scooter and we will sort out...i said i have no idea how to bring scooter to them he said drive there will no problem to engine or wait till spring..
That was my first and last contact with them..i will bring bike to my trusted mechanic who keep perfect maintenance to my Yamaha XJR more than 5 years..problem is that he in hospital for next month and half and i want to sort out problem sooner.

So if anyone with similar problem can gave me solution what to do?Shall i purchase new Idle Sensor or something else?
One of solution that i have on my mind is that i will re check and clean most of wired contacts and do another ECU reset..if that not solve problem then i will find someone trustworthy(its very hard to find good mechanic as usual)
Keep in mind that problem showed after temperature went under 0 so there is possibility for some other sensor like 02 sensor or something else?

Thanks!
  

Don´t worry  mean.  Read carefully what i´m gonna writte.  5 Flashes plus 8 more  is  66 Code error.    it would be  ( 5 x10 ) + ( 8 x 2) = 66              code error  66........  it is     (05) Sensor de posición del cigüeñal (Crank Position Sensor) (Bobina de pulsos) CPS

 (01) Unidad de control del motor ECU
(02) Conmutador de inclinación (Sensor del ángulo de inclinación) ROLL
(03) Bomba de gasolina/Aforador FP (04) Sensor de temperatura del refrigerante (Engine Coolant Temperature) ECT sensor
(05) Sensor de posición del cigüeñal (Crank Position Sensor) (Bobina de pulsos) CPS
(06) Sensor de oxígeno/calentamiento (HeaTer) de oxígeno O2/O2 HT sensor
(07) Válvula del aire secundario  EXAI (AICV)
(08) Bobina de alta tensión inductiva (IGnition) IG
(09) Inyector (INJector) (Boquilla) INJ
(10) Sensor de presión de admisión MAP sensor
 (11) Válvula baipás de aire de ralentí ISC
(12) Sensor posición cuerpo de mariposa                                                       TPS


 code error   cell     66 P0335 CPS defectuoso
● Mal contacto o contacto flojo en CPS ● Circuito abierto o cortocircuito en el cable del CPS ● CPS defectuoso
● El motor no arranca ● El motor no funciona  ..... look at this

Número de identificación del cuerpo del acelerador 479 A Régimen de ralentí 1600±100 rpm Juego libre del acelerador 2～6 mm Resistencia del inyector (a 20° C) 11.7±0.6 Ω Flotador en posición lleno 7±3 Ω Resistencia de la bomba de gasolina (a 20° C) Flotador en posición vacío 95±5 Ω Presión normal en la bomba de gasolina (a 40 litros/hora) 2,9 bares Caudal de la bomba de gasolina (a 12 V/presión normal) 20 litros/hora (mínimo) A –20°C 18.8 KΩ A 40°C 1.136 KΩ Resistencia del sensor de temperatura del refrigerante A 100°C 0.1553 KΩ Presión del sensor de presión de admisión (MAP)        (a 1～4.2 V) 13.332 kPa (0.13332 kgf/ cm2)～ 119.99 kPa (1.1999 kgf/ cm2) Resistencia del sensor de posición del acelerador (TPS)    (a 20°C) 0.3～4.5 V (con una apertura de la válvula de mariposa de 0～100%) Resistencia de la válvula A/B del baipás raléntí (ISC)    (a 20°C) 80±5 Ω CPS Tensión del sensor de posición del cigüeñal (a 200 rpm) Más de 1 V Resistencia del sensor de calentamiento de O2 (a 20°C) 7.7±1.2 Ω Estándar  0.4～1.4 V Tensión del inclinómetro Inclinado más de 65° 3.7～4.4 V Resistencia de la válvula de velocidad del aire de ralentí (AICV) (a 20°C) 35.5～40.5 Ω  

 
Position sensor cigüeñal,  this sensor meassures the speed  of the cigüeñal, check the wires that go to the CPU   Unit process control, clean the wires  with  a  contact  cleanner (it shouldn´t be dirty  after you clean it ), broken wires ?

  In Spain this parts of the motorbike  are called  CAPTADOR.      You have many links in our  web  .Good luck
  




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Yo compi en el tema errores del celp ..   
un saludo    
  




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SALUT,BENZINA I GAS A FONS

JIM........Según dice el chaval,   son 5 destellos lentos y 8 rapidos,   a   mi me  salen 66  que  es  el  tema  captador. Lo que  pasa  es  que  si  el captador  está  roto  según dice  el  manual, la moto  no arranca, ya  que  al  funcionar pasa  una  tensión de 1 voltio por  los  cables. E una  avería  rara. espero  que  tenga  suerte  el  chaval.
  




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JIM........Según dice el chaval,   son 5 destellos lentos y 8 rapidos,   a   mi me  salen 66  que  es  el  tema  captador. Lo que  pasa  es  que  si  el captador  está  roto  según dice  el  manual, la moto  no arranca, ya  que  al  funcionar pasa  una  tensión de 1 voltio por  los  cables. E una  avería  rara. espero  que  tenga  suerte  el  chaval.

   ,haber si da con el "que"
un saludo    
  




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SALUT,BENZINA I GAS A FONS

My mistake..i was reading error codes wrongly.
Probably i got wrong impression because bike starting and working very good, normal.
As user manual saying if CPS malfunction bike wont start and work.

Again thanks for help i will look at this issue when weather become normal and temperature goes over 0.

Take care.
  

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My mistake..i was reading error codes wrongly.
Probably i got wrong impression because bike starting and working very good, normal.
As user manual saying if CPS malfunction bike wont start and work.

Again thanks for help i will look at this issue when weather become normal and temperature goes over 0.

Take care.

Ok.  good look.

I hope you are looky !!!
  




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Hello friends!

Today lucky for me and Xciting was sunny day (but not so warm, around 9-10 Celsius) and i decided to check whats going on.
I opened front cover and cleaned all contacts with spray cleaner..also cleaned O2 sensor which is easy accessible.
I cleaned few other things who are easy accessible from sides without opening seat cover.

After that i followed reset procedure and after first time i got reset and error gone!
Lucky for me and my Xciting error didn't show up when i started bike next time.

I don't know whats happened but for sure that was not crankshaft sensor failure.

Again thank You for suggesting and help.

Take care and drive safe!
  

Your welcome .
  




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Another thing..
I know its widely spoken on forum about J Costa and Malossi but since i was reading forum with help of Google Translate half of messages aren't translated and i cant understand everything, but i understand most of content.
I know-read about few issues with J Costa reliability but as i understand that was solved with next generation variator-EVo2 or Evo3.
Also im aware that J costa pulley wearing faster than Malossi but as i understand J Costa have more linear power from start to end.

I'm asking this because i am pretty tall and heavy driver  (195cm/125-30kg) and kgs varies from period, summer or winter
Most of time scooter going well but from time to time i got impression that i need few HP more, or little more power.

From those who tried 250 cc with J Costa or Malossi what can you recommend? J Costa or Malossi?
I have Malossi multivar here for 150 euro and J Costa for 180, both new.
What to choose?I don't mind if J Costa pulleys wear faster than malossi, i just want linear power, but not want to change to 500cc.
Maybe i will consider to change for Downtown 300 but  not pretty sure.

Thanks!
  

I will reply to my self


I was not lazy and used search option on site so i found loads of comments..
My conclusion is that J Costa is little faster but pellets wear every 5-6000 km while Malossi have little less power than J Costa but also is less maintenance free.
Malossi in maintenance consideration is almost same as original(pellets last 15.000+-km).

Probably i will go for Malossi but not sure 100% because i found J Costa on discount for same price as Malossi.

I want to change exhaust also mostly for louder(not loud loud) so other drivers can hear-notice me..Here in my country driving culture is on very very low level and noone take bicycle or motorcycle drivers into concideration.
I have Arrow Reflex, Leo Vince GT and 4Road and Akrapovic Slip on, all used but in excellent condition, price is same for all.
Just need to find out what will suit best for Xciting 250 without need for re-jeting carburation.

Any suggestion for exhaust is also welcomed.

Btw on xjr i have custom made twin Race exhaust(most mechanics who saw and hear Race exhaust said that sound and quality is on top of Acrap, LeoV and others) but unfortunately workshop is closed due to illness of owner.
Check on YouTube how they sounded (search Race Ada exhaust not Dragon Ada) because there is 2 manufacturers in same town, but Race was making better quality, which mean Dragon is not bad either.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqOCXj5o4xc

Beautiful sound on TDB
  

I dont know too much  about this topic but, if you can, put in your MBike  Acrap, do it. Good luck.
  




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